Johan Gottlieb Kolbe
Tailor. Died at 34 Conduit Street, Mayfair — not Lamb's Conduit Street; the tree's photograph is of the wrong building. Buried at the German Savoy Church, Strand.
The record
| Name | Johan Gottlieb Kolbe |
| Born | 1765 |
| Died | 1845 |
| Line | Kolbe |
| Confidence | Documented |
What the archive holds
Tailor. Died at 34 Conduit Street, Mayfair — not Lamb's Conduit Street; the tree's photograph is of the wrong building. Buried at the German Savoy Church, Strand.
Where the archive puts Johan
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Disputed
…The tree has Margaretha Wilhelmina Elizabeth Mary, born Graaff-Reinet. Serious Her mother’s 1867 death notice lists her as “Margaret Wilhelmina, married to J. Barry”, which supports the tree against the 1915 guess. The informant in 1915 did not know his own grandparents’ names, so his accuracy on his mother’s is not to be relied on. → Johan Gottlieb Kolbe — place of burial The tree records “St John the Baptist, Leamington, Warwickshire.” Resolved WRONG. The register reads “St John Baptist, in the GERMAN SAVOY CHURCH, in the County of Middlesex” — the German Lutheran chapel in the Strand, a hundred miles from Warwickshire, and the same congregation that holds five of his children and his wife. Someone matched the dedication to the wrong church.…
The documents
…Movable property: No . Immovable: No . Estate: Nil . No will. She died in her son's house at Manorowen. Set that beside her mother Margaret Downing , who in 1867 left a house in Burgersdorp and a farm in the division of Albert; beside her grandfather Johan Gottlieb Kolbe , whose 1842 will disposed of a partnership in a Bond Street tailoring firm; and beside her husband John Barry , whose estate in 1903 exceeded £300. The Kolbe money did not last three generations. This notice also supplies a third date for John Barry's death — "August 1904" — against the 3 August 1903 of his own 1915 death notice and the 25 August 1903 in the tree.…
The households
…11 Jun 1923 On whose word a record read here Married out of community of property to Evelyn Wilfred Diesel and dead fourteen years before her father. Her two children took her tenth share between them. The distribution account 2 children Gwendoline Diesel Aubrey Diesel Johan Gottlieb Kolbe Johan 1765 – 1845 On whose word a record read here A tailor of Conduit Street, Mayfair. Four independent documents call him John Gottlob; the family tree calls him Johan Gottlieb, and this archive follows the documents.…
Open questions
…The strength of the request is that it runs the search backwards . We have no service number for any son — but we know there was a pension, and we know the pensioner's name, her exact address and her date of death. The pension registers can be searched on those. § 14 · High priority Did any of the Bond Street money reach the Cape? Johan Gottlieb Kolbe's 1842 will divides his residue among his children, with the issue of any dead child taking that child's share , and a later clause names "my said children or grandchildren" outright. George Augustus Kolbe died eleven months before his father. On paper his share therefore fell to his children at Burgersdorp — including Margaretha Kolbe, who married John Augustus Barry.…
Everyone
…The Kolbes The Women George Augustus Kolbe Documented 17 mentions 1802 1 Dec 1844, “Wurtemburg”, Colesberg 1820 Settler — the Nautilus, Owen's party, Algoa Bay 14 Apr 1820. Married at sixteen on a sworn falsehood. Preached across the Orange River. His grandson could not name him in 1915. The Kolbes Home The Documents Johan Gottlieb Kolbe Documented 8 mentions 1765 1845 Tailor. Died at 34 Conduit Street, Mayfair — not Lamb's Conduit Street; the tree's photograph is of the wrong building. Buried at the German Savoy Church, Strand. The Kolbes The Documents John Gottlob Kolbe Documented 7 mentions — — Of the London Kolbes.…
The register
…Africa record ↗ South Africa, Transvaal, Probate Records from the Master of the Supreme Court, 1869-1961 Johan Casimir Kolbe with: Elizabeth Geertruida Pienaar record ↗ South Africa, Civil Marriage Records, 1801-1974 Johan Casimir Kolbe Birth 1934 · with: Maria Monica Van Der Walt record ↗ South Africa, Civil Marriage Records, 1801-1974 Johan Gottlieb Kolbe reconstructed 1765 · 1845 no public link reconstructed by this archive Johan Hendrik Casimir Kolbe Birth 1863 · with: Gertruida Jacomina Louw record ↗ South Africa, Civil Marriage Records, 1801-1974 Johannas Kolbe Burial 27 Jan 1917 | Death Plumstead, Cape Province, South Africa record ↗ South Africa, Cape, Cemetery Records, 1872-2011 Johannes Frederik Kolbe Death 18 Apr 1957 Bezuidenhout Valley,…
The timeline
…a Catharina Mountjoy 4 Nov 1838 — Booysen marries Mountjoy at Cradock 25 Jun 1840 — “Names of the Parents of the Deceased. Not Known.” 16 Jun 1843 — Johanna Booyzen dies at 28 Roze Street, Cape Town 1 Dec 1844 — George Augustus Kolbe dies at “Wurtemburg”, Colesberg 15 May 1844 — Johanna Catharina Booysen born at Brak Rivier 26 Nov 1845 — Johan Gottlieb Kolbe buried at the German Savoy Church 20 Aug 1848 — George Mountjoy, saddle maker, marries Maria Sophia Botha 31 Oct 1851 — Willem Hermanus Booyzen baptised at Achter Sneeuwberg 25 Dec 1862 — A baptism at Rustenburg that spells the name this archive got wrong 19 May 1863 — Johanna Catharina dies at Zevenfontein 16 Jul 1866 — Hercules Johannes Mountjoy born 25 Nov 1867 — Margaret Downing dies at Burge…
The tree
…His son's 1903 registration says only: an Irishman, born in Ireland. Margaretha W. E. M. Kolbe 1826 – 1912 Margaretha Wilhelmina Elizabeth Mary Kolbe · 1826 – 1912 George Augustus Kolbe 1802 – 1844 George Augustus Kolbe · 1802 – 1844 Johan Gottlieb Kolbe 1765 – 1845 Johan Gottlieb Kolbe · 1765 – 1845 Margaret Downing c.1804 – 1867 Margaret Downing · c.1804 – 1867 John Paul Downing — – — John Paul Downing · — – — Anna Johanna M. Pretorius 1906 – 1944 Anna Johanna Maria Pretorius · 1906 – 1944 Petrus Jacobus Pretorius 1878 – 1941 Petrus Jacobus Pretorius · 1878 – 1941 Margarietha W. E.…
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