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Elizabeth Maria Mountjoy

BORN IN THE RIGHT TOWN AND ASKED THE RIGHT QUESTION, AND THE ANSWER IS NO. Death notice 83676, read in full: born at DORDRECHT, dead at Kokstad at eighty years and eleven months, the widow of JOHN JOSEPH DEMMER, ALIAS JOSEPH IGNATZ DEMMER, who died on 1 August 1906; married at STUTTERHEIM; eight children, the eldest already dead. Letters of Administration in the same file appoint her son HARRY THOMAS DEMMER executor testamentary, and the inventory values the estate at about £1,048 in Kokstad erven still registered in her dead husband’s name. QUESTION THREE IS REFUSED IN SIX WORDS: “Do not know, both deceased.” SHE CANNOT BE A DAUGHTER OF THE BARKLY EAST HOUSE, and the arithmetic says so without needing an opinion: Maria Louisa Bertha Kumm was born about October 1860, and a daughter born in January 1862 would make the mother fifteen months old. If she belongs to that family at all she belongs a generation higher — a possible SISTER of James Jonathan Mountjoy, who was born about June 1854. NOT CLAIMED. AND NAAIRS HAS HER FORENAME WRONG. It files her as ELIZABETH MARTHA; the death notice and the Letters of Administration both read ELIZABETH MARIA, and the file number 83676 is the same on all three, so it is one woman and two readings.

Elizabeth Maria Mountjoyc. Jan 1862 – 15 Dec 1942Mountjoy
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NameElizabeth Maria Mountjoy
Also writtenElizabeth Maria Demmer, born Mountjoy · ELIZABETH MARTHA, which is NAAIRS’s reading and is wrong
Bornc. Jan 1862, Dordrecht
Died15 Dec 1942, Erf 12 Block XIX, Kokstad, district Mount Currie — aged 80 years 11 months
LineMountjoy
ConfidenceDocumented

What the archive holds

BORN IN THE RIGHT TOWN AND ASKED THE RIGHT QUESTION, AND THE ANSWER IS NO. Death notice 83676, read in full: born at DORDRECHT, dead at Kokstad at eighty years and eleven months, the widow of JOHN JOSEPH DEMMER, ALIAS JOSEPH IGNATZ DEMMER, who died on 1 August 1906; married at STUTTERHEIM; eight children, the eldest already dead. Letters of Administration in the same file appoint her son HARRY THOMAS DEMMER executor testamentary, and the inventory values the estate at about £1,048 in Kokstad erven still registered in her dead husband’s name. QUESTION THREE IS REFUSED IN SIX WORDS: “Do not know, both deceased.” SHE CANNOT BE A DAUGHTER OF THE BARKLY EAST HOUSE, and the arithmetic says so without needing an opinion: Maria Louisa Bertha Kumm was born about October 1860, and a daughter born in January 1862 would make the mother fifteen months old. If she belongs to that family at all she belongs a generation higher — a possible SISTER of James Jonathan Mountjoy, who was born about June 1854. NOT CLAIMED. AND NAAIRS HAS HER FORENAME WRONG. It files her as ELIZABETH MARTHA; the death notice and the Letters of Administration both read ELIZABETH MARIA, and the file number 83676 is the same on all three, so it is one woman and two readings.

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The Marriages

…1896, Middelburg, Transvaal 12 Dec 1945, Flagstaff — aged 49 Cecil Frederik Keys 15 Sep 1891, baptised 8 Nov 1891 at Barkly East — Charles Mountjoy — — Christiaan Jacobus van Niekerk — — Cornelia Elizabeth Gertruida Ross — — Cornelius van Niekerk — — David Schalk van der Merwe — — Elizabeth Maria Mountjoy c.…

The People

…Her name was given again to the next daughter but one. FROM THE INDEX. The Namesakes The Women The Register Charles Mountjoy Documented — — Major son, a tenth share. The Documents Elizabeth Maria Mountjoy also written Elizabeth Maria Demmer, born Mountjoy · ELIZABETH MARTHA, which is NAAIRS’s reading and is wrong Documented c. Jan 1862, Dordrecht 15 Dec 1942, Erf 12 Block XIX, Kokstad, district Mount Currie — aged 80 years 11 months BORN IN THE RIGHT TOWN AND ASKED THE RIGHT QUESTION, AND THE ANSWER IS NO.…

Elizabeth Maria Mountjoy

…Death notice 83676, read in full: born at DORDRECHT, dead at Kokstad at eighty years and eleven months, the widow of JOHN JOSEPH DEMMER, ALIAS JOSEPH IGNATZ DEMMER, who died on 1 August 1906; married at STUTTERHEIM; eight children, the eldest already dead.…

The Register

…ovince of South Africa, Parish Registers, 1801-2004 Elizabeth Emmaline Mountjoy Birth 1872 · with: James Leopold Phillips record ↗ South Africa, Church of the Province of South Africa, Parish Registers, 1801-2004 Elizabeth Emmaline Mountjoy Birth 1872 · with: James Leopold Phillips record ↗ South Africa, Civil Marriage Records, 1801-1974 Elizabeth Maria Mountjoy — record ↗ South Africa, Pietermaritzburg, Estate Files 1846-1950 Elizabeth Maria Mountjoy reconstructed c. Jan 1862, Dordrecht · 15 Dec 1942, Erf 12 Block XIX, Kokstad, district Mount Currie — aged 80 years 11 months no public link reconstructed by this archive Ellen G Mountjoy Burial Johannesburg, Gauteng, South Africa record ↗ South Africa, Gauteng, Johannesburg, Cemetery Records, 1840-2019 El…

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