Zuane De Franceschi

…has been able to document in Carnia itself — the country the family says it came from, and where every account of its origin has until now been tradition rather than record. In 1679 a list of village headmen recorded, at Mione: «Zuane De Franceschi con un suo fiolo, Zuane d'Erman: questi tre nell'Istria, luogo imperiale» — a De Franceschi of Mione with a son, working in Istria, in the imperial place. Carlo De Franceschi, writing about 1873, said the family had come from Carnia and settled in Istria…

…in 1806 is Giovanni Micoli-Toscano, with Battà Micoli-Toscano as secretary. The Micoli Toscano family archive at Mione is already on this project's research log as the place that holds the Gorto contracts naming the Erman who travelled to Istria with Zuane De Franceschi in 1679. In 1806 they are running the commune. And eight deaths in the same five years The register of the dead for the Comune di Mione, 1806–1810, carries eight De Franceschi entries. Read with the births, they turn a…

…— peasant weaver — which is precisely the trade Carlo De Franceschi's own book says sent the men of the Ovaro parishes down the road of the Furlans into Istria as cramars. And in the wife's ancestry stands the surname ERMAN — the family named alongside Zuane De Franceschi in the 1679 list of men working in the imperial part of Istria. n Paolo De Franceschi Giovanna Prencis Dates unrecorded. The by-name of the house Francesco was born in — «in cjasa da Prences» — is hers.…

…Jelinčić's edition of Kobler's letters, Vjesnik historijskih arhiva u Rijeci i Pazinu, open access on Hrčak. What the 1679 list was a list of This archive has leaned on one line from a headmen's return of 1679 — a Zuane De Franceschi of Mione, at work in the Habsburg County of Pazin — and has been arguing from it that the family came down into Istria as weavers. Giorgio Ferigo, the historian of the Carnian population, quotes that return in full in «Le cifre, le anime», and the argument…

…It says so. …nell'elenco stilato dai merighi, compaiono soltanto i tessitori recatisi nella contea di Pisino: così da Agrons e Cella «Mathio Ruvis con doi fioli, Gio-Batta et Pietro da Ruvis: questi tre nell'Istria, luogo imperiale»; da Mione «Zuane De Franceschi con un suo fiolo, Zuane d'Erman: questi tre nell'Istria, luogo imperiale»; da Luint «Anzolo del Fabro, mogliato nell'Istria, luogo imperiale». …in the list drawn up by the headmen there appear only the weavers who had gone into the County of…

…the list drawn up by the headmen there appear only the weavers who had gone into the County of Pisino: so from Agrons and Cella, «Mathio Ruvis with two sons, Gio-Batta and Pietro da Ruvis: these three in Istria, imperial territory»; from Mione, «Zuane De Franceschi with a son of his, Zuane d'Erman: these three in Istria, imperial territory»; from Luint, «Anzolo del Fabro, married in Istria, imperial territory». The trade is stated, not inferred «soltanto i tessitori» — only the weavers.…

…read here in September, records the same man as «Pietro Fuluto (Mione, ante 1514; Liariis 1515 e Luincis 1519)» — frescoing Mione before 1514, Liariis in 1515, Luincis in 1519. The cycle in the family's own village church is the earliest of the three. A Zuane De Franceschi walking out of Mione for Istria in 1679 had grown up under those walls. Agostino De Franceschi b. 2 2 or 8 July 18 ??, d. 1 1 or 5 September 18 ?? The oldest De Franceschi stone in the ground, and the archive has now failed twice…

…is now obvious, though this archive published both halves without seeing it. The headmen's return of 1679, which Ferigo prints in full, lists the weavers gone into the County of Pazin village by village: from «Agrons e Cella» the Ruvis, and from «Mione» — «Zuane De Franceschi con un suo fiolo». Agrons is where the family held the castle in the fifteenth century. Mione is where the archives put them in the sixteenth. And in 1679 a Zuane De Franceschi of Mione is on the road to the imperial county with his son. Two villages a mile…

…Pazin village by village: from «Agrons e Cella» the Ruvis, and from «Mione» — «Zuane De Franceschi con un suo fiolo». Agrons is where the family held the castle in the fifteenth century. Mione is where the archives put them in the sixteenth. And in 1679 a Zuane De Franceschi of Mione is on the road to the imperial county with his son. Two villages a mile apart in one parish, two hundred years apart in the documents, and the same road out of both. What the family did once it was there, from the…

…a name, and «mistro», the title of a master craftsman. The Croatian text has «mistro» and the Italian «ministro», and mistro is plainly the right reading for a man in a village of weavers. Zuanne is Venetian for Giovanni. Eighteen years later, in 1679, a Zuane De Franceschi of Mione is entered on the headmen's list of weavers gone into that same county. November 1686 — the old stock dies «In novembre del 1686 muore a Montecalvo Gian Battista, che nel documento dell'archivio parrocchiale…

…list was drawn up beneath The Romanesque campanile of Santa Maria di Gorto over the graves. This is the mother church of the Val Degano, and its two parishes — Ovaro and Luincis — are the ones whose headmen made the return of 1679 that names «Zuane De Franceschi con un suo fiolo, Zuane d'Erman: questi tre nell'Istria, luogo imperiale». The men who wrote that list are buried under this tower. Photographed by the family in Carnia, 2026 — ninety-four frames from Ovaro, Mione, Muina and…

…Sikich, Bosen — and a Fernasar is worth noting on its own, because Antonio the stonecutter of house 19 married a Maria née Fernasar a hundred and fifty years later. 1679 is the year of the headmen's return from the Carnian parishes that names «Zuane De Franceschi con un suo fiolo» at work «nell'Istria, luogo imperiale» — the Habsburg County of Pazin, which is this parish. This archive has been arguing from that one line for a year, and asking where in Istria the man went. The baptism register of the county's largest…

…family's own papers is catalogued «Obitelj Defranceschi (De Franceschi) iz Gologorice 1610/1934» — beginning in 1610. Set that beside what this archive has otherwise: Kobler's oldest Fiume stock married there in 1614; the Mione headmen's list of 1679 has a Zuane De Franceschi already at work in the County of Pazin; Carlo himself said the crossing was around 1700; and Kobler dates Valentino's crossing to about 1730. These are not one migration with one date. They are a road that was used repeatedly for well over a century, and…

…at all. The family's own earliest paper in that fond is 1703. None of the rest cites a document. They are not four rival answers to one question. They are the sediment of a movement that went on for two hundred years, and the archive's own evidence — a Zuane De Franceschi already working in the Pazin county in 1679, a Valentino crossing about 1730 — says exactly the same thing. Said carefully: the Zagreb article is a finding aid written by librarians describing an archive, not a work of genealogy, and it gives…

…list. Istražujem obitelj De Franceschi u Istri. n low Archivio di Stato di Udine Notarile antico, B. 2979 ASUd, Notarile antico, busta 2979 The Carnian end. The 1679 headmen's list puts a Zuane De Franceschi of Mione working in the county of Pazin; notarial acts are where a man of that kind leaves a second trace. Whether the busta is consultable and whether a targeted search for the surname can be commissioned. Gentili Signori, chiedo se…

…1730» — he came to Fiume from Carnia about 1730, and was made a citizen in 1739. Nine years from arrival to citizenship. Carlo, writing privately a century and a half later, said his family came over from Carnia around 1700; the 1679 headmen's list has a Zuane De Franceschi of Mione already working in the County of Pazin. Valentino is a later crossing on the same road, and the only one with a year on it. And it stood there in Kobler's own time «Esiste presso il confine occidentale, poco più…

…and the one Carlo and Camillo belong to. It is also the line whose emigrant spelling became Defranceski — a form now concentrated in South Africa. carnia-fiume The Carnia line inferred mione Zuane De Franceschi of Mione, 1679 Carnia → Fiume (Rijeka) No longer a guess about weavers in general. A De Franceschi of Mione is named on the 1679 headmen's list as working in the Habsburg County of Pazin — the same county the family's Istrian villages…

…and municipal officials Details are sparse and the line disperses. Included because it is part of the received account and because anything that later joins it must be able to find it. zuane-de-franceschi-mione Zuane De Franceschi born died mione carnia-fiume Weaver documented Named in 1679, with a son, as a weaver of Mione working in the Habsburg County of Pazin. The oldest documented tie between…

…Trade Weaver tessitore With a son of his, and Zuane d'Erman of Mione Where ‘nell'Istria, luogo imperiale’ — the County of Pazin not Venetian Istria The entry reads, in the headmen's own words: da Mione «Zuane De Franceschi con un suo fiolo, Zuane d'Erman: questi tre nell'Istria, luogo imperiale» — from Mione, Zuane De Franceschi with a son of his, and Zuane d'Erman: these three in Istria, an imperial place. Three things in that one line matter. First, it is a De…

…‘nell'Istria, luogo imperiale’ — the County of Pazin not Venetian Istria The entry reads, in the headmen's own words: da Mione «Zuane De Franceschi con un suo fiolo, Zuane d'Erman: questi tre nell'Istria, luogo imperiale» — from Mione, Zuane De Franceschi with a son of his, and Zuane d'Erman: these three in Istria, an imperial place. Three things in that one line matter. First, it is a De Franceschi of Mione — the surname is in the Carnian village, not merely near it. Second, luogo imperiale means the…

…the Val But of Carnia, on the road to the Plöcken pass — one of the valleys the 1679 headmen's list covers. Paluzza belongs with Mione, Ovaro, Muina and Givigliana in the Carnian group. The documented link to Istria is the 1679 list on which a Zuane De Franceschi of Mione is recorded working in the County of Pazin with his son; Paluzza is on the map because the walking itinerary crosses it, not because a person of the name is yet documented here. sovinjak Sovinjak…

…surname is not from here. a place, not a family The archive names it for context: a jurisdiction, an archive, a publishing city. Carnia and Friuli — the first line's country Mione di Ovaro Carnia doc A Zuane De Franceschi of Mione on the 1679 headmen's list of the County of Pazin, with his son. The only document that shows the journey at all. Ovaro· Muina· Givigliana· Paluzza Carnia doc The valley around Mione, and the Gorto cemetery where thirty and more…

…Francetich F y Mathiæ Francetich Mariæ Vlahovich lead XQMM-K32H Mandalina De Franceschi Franceschi F y Zuane De Franceschi Ellena in XQMQ-FXSH Margarita Franceschi Franceschi F y Ignatÿ Franceschi Matthea Franceschi cand Same name as somebody in this archive, but…

…De Franceschi Eufemia Bergamo Mattio Bergamo in XQMM-L1RK Zorzi Filipis Surname not indexed y Giovanna De Franceschi lead 6YBR-D3RB Zuane De Franceschi Franceschi M y Gio Anto De Franceschi Lucia in 6YBR-W499 Zuane Franchini Franchini M y Emilian Franchini…

…Gaspar de Franceschi, warship owner at Omiš year Uskoks expelled from Senj year Gologorica baptism register begins year Gračišće baptism register begins year Zuane De Franceschi of Mione, weaver in the County of Pazin year De Franceschi house built on the Gologorica square year Zuane Ivan Franceschi shelters 600 Imotski refugees year Imotski taken; the Perinuša…

…of itself starts in Carnia — the high valleys north of Udine, where villages sent their men down the road of the Furlans into Istria each autumn as weavers and pedlars, and fetched them home in late spring. A headmen's list of 1679 catches exactly that: a Zuane De Franceschi of Mione at work in the imperial part of Istria, with his son. Some of them stopped coming home. Zuane De Franceschi di Mione, con suo figlio. Headmen's list, 1679 That is the whole of the documentary evidence for the…

…Neuhausen, Bad Urach, 1941–45. Walk the Carnia line Val Degano, Friuli· three days In 1679 the headmen of the Canale di Gorto listed the weavers who had gone to work in the County of Pazin. From Mione: «Zuane De Franceschi con un suo fiolo». This is the road he walked, in reverse — and it is about forty kilometres of it, in one valley, all of it still standing. This is not a list of dots. It is an order to do things in, because the order matters. The graveyard at…