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Lucia Tromba (De Franceschi)

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PlaceVodnjan
LineSouthern Istria
Read from005497894 · marriages img 215 · deaths img 556
Found inRead off the register
What the archive knows

«Lucia Tromba q.m Cristoforo», wife of Giuseppe De Franceschi — mother of the priest, the ploughman and the weaver. A Tromba, the surname of the parroco Giovanni Tromba who licensed her son Don Stefano

the archive's own line a register read here a FamilySearch index entry the family tree, unverified
Where this comes from

5 of the 5 relationships drawn above are written in a register this archive has read with its own eyes.

Joined on a name alone. One household above could not be date-checked, because this archive holds no year for the person or for the household. Treat that link as a lead.

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Appears on: Changes · Fiume 1626 · Gaps · Households · Everyone · The Search Register · Vodnjan

Changes

…at house 532, and still alive in 1833 — it is her son who dies, and her husband who is already «del fu». The father's name is the interesting part. This archive holds exactly one Giuseppe De Franceschi: 1758 – 14 February 1830, house 324, × Lucia Tromba q.m Cristoforo, dead suddenly and without a priest. He was in his grave three years when this entry was written, which is what «fu» requires. If this Michiela is his daughter, she stands beside Don Stefano the priest, Pietro the ploughman, Cristoforo…

…household Vodnjan, Liber Copulatorum — DGS 005497894, images 215–216 The household of the priest, the ploughman and the weaver opens. 27 July 1833, house 324: «Maria Francesca, figlia del fu Giuseppe De Franceschi q.m Pietro e di Lucia Tromba q.m Cristoforo», marrying at twenty-eight. That gives Giuseppe a father (Pietro), a wife (Lucia Tromba) and a fourth child — and confirms his death inside the bracket his sons' patronymics had already set, after November 1828 and before…

…priest, the ploughman and the weaver opens. 27 July 1833, house 324: «Maria Francesca, figlia del fu Giuseppe De Franceschi q.m Pietro e di Lucia Tromba q.m Cristoforo», marrying at twenty-eight. That gives Giuseppe a father (Pietro), a wife (Lucia Tromba) and a fourth child — and confirms his death inside the bracket his sons' patronymics had already set, after November 1828 and before February 1833. The mother is a Tromba: the surname of Giovanni Tromba S.T.D., the parroco who signs every…

…for Giuseppe De Franceschi — only a range derived from how his sons were written, «di Giuseppe» in November 1828 and «fu Giuseppe» in February 1833. The death register gives 14 February 1830: «Giuseppe De Franceschi q.m Pietro era ammogliato con Lucia Tromba fu Cristoforo», house 324, aged 72 — so born about 1758 — of an organic defect of the chest, and, in the sacraments column, «senza assistenza spirituale per morte improvvisa»: suddenly, with no priest. His own son was a priest of…

Fiume 1626

…it was published) 27 July 1833 — the brothers get a mother, and she is a Tromba 34· 27 Luglio 1833· № domus 324 Sponsa — Maria Francesca, figlia del fu Giuseppe De Franceschi q.m Pietro e di Lucia Tromba q.m Cristoforo, giugali Cattolica· d'Anni 28· Celibe Testes — Fran.co Davanzo fu Gio., Trafficante Sig.r Andrea Tromba fu Matteo, Possidente Civile The household this archive has been circling since March 1818 — Don…

…Possidente Civile The household this archive has been circling since March 1818 — Don Stefano the priest, Pietro the ploughman, Cristoforo the weaver, all «di Giuseppe» — finally opens. «del fu Giuseppe De Franceschi q.m Pietro e di Lucia Tromba q.m Cristoforo». That is a father for Giuseppe (a Pietro), a wife for Giuseppe (Lucia Tromba), and a fourth child: Maria Francesca, twenty-eight, so born about 1805. And Giuseppe is «del fu» — dead — which sits exactly inside the…

…the priest, Pietro the ploughman, Cristoforo the weaver, all «di Giuseppe» — finally opens. «del fu Giuseppe De Franceschi q.m Pietro e di Lucia Tromba q.m Cristoforo». That is a father for Giuseppe (a Pietro), a wife for Giuseppe (Lucia Tromba), and a fourth child: Maria Francesca, twenty-eight, so born about 1805. And Giuseppe is «del fu» — dead — which sits exactly inside the bracket the weaver's own patronymic gave: after November 1828, before February 1833. And the mother is a…

…inf — same town, same generation, death inside the same bracket — and the Tromba kinship is inf, on a shared surname in a small town) The line now stands:· Pietro De Franceschi — named only as Giuseppe's dead father· Giuseppe × Lucia Tromba q.m Cristoforo — Giuseppe dead 1828×1833· Don Stefano, priest· Pietro, agricoltore· Cristoforo, tessitore· Maria Francesca, b. c.1805 The death register, opened 54· 11 Marzo 1829· № domus…

…it, which the baptism book never showed. (doc) 14 February 1830 — Giuseppe, found, and the bracket closes exactly 27· 14 Febrajo 1830· № domus 324 «Giuseppe De Franceschi q.m Pietro era ammogliato con Lucia Tromba fu Cristoforo» Cattolico· Maschio· d'anni 72 Morbus seu causa mortis: Vizio organico di petto Sacramenti: senza assistenza spirituale per morte improvvisa — and five months later — 77· 13 Luglio 1830· № domus…

Gaps

…Maria and Veniera Francin q.m Domenico; married Antonia Del Carro, a widow, on 1 December 1832 aged 29 — younger brother of the Gio: Maria who married Lucia Bonassin in 1821 Vodnjan deaths 1815–1833· film 005497894, images 471–575 Lucia Tromba (De Franceschi) Vodnjan «Lucia Tromba q.m Cristoforo», wife of Giuseppe De Franceschi — mother of the priest, the ploughman and the weaver. A Tromba, the surname of the parroco Giovanni Tromba who licensed her son Don Stefano…

…a widow, on 1 December 1832 aged 29 — younger brother of the Gio: Maria who married Lucia Bonassin in 1821 Vodnjan deaths 1815–1833· film 005497894, images 471–575 Lucia Tromba (De Franceschi) Vodnjan «Lucia Tromba q.m Cristoforo», wife of Giuseppe De Franceschi — mother of the priest, the ploughman and the weaver. A Tromba, the surname of the parroco Giovanni Tromba who licensed her son Don Stefano Vodnjan deaths 1815–1833· film 005497894, images…

…Giovanni Tromba who licensed her son Don Stefano Vodnjan deaths 1815–1833· film 005497894, images 471–575 Maria Francesca De Franceschi Vodnjan Daughter of the late Giuseppe De Franceschi q.m Pietro and Lucia Tromba; married 27 July 1833, house 324, aged 28 — sister of Don Stefano, Pietro and Cristoforo Vodnjan deaths 1815–1833· film 005497894, images 471–575 Pietro De Franceschi Vodnjan Named only in his children's…

Vodnjan

…this archive had derived purely from how his sons were written. Pietro De Franceschi b. c.1730 — named only in his children's patronymics inf Giuseppe De Franceschi 1758–14 Feb 1830, house 324· × Lucia Tromba q.m Cristoforo· died suddenly, without a priest doc Lucia De Franceschi 1760–13 Jul 1830· × Alviso Birattan q.m Sabà· very probably Giuseppe's sister inf Don Stefano sacerdote· baptised in 1816 and…

…and a handful of forenames. That is not evidence. The place to settle it is the dispensation files of the Ordinariate of Pola, which this register cites by protocol number and which would state the degree of kinship outright. The Tromba kinship Lucia Tromba is the mother of Don Stefano; Giovanni Tromba is the parson who licensed him. In a town this size that is very likely kin — and it is inferred from a shared surname, which is exactly the reasoning this archive distrusts everywhere else.…

…and Veniera Francin 325 17 Jul 1832 marriage Domenico De Franceschi, 46, son of Pietro De Franceschi and Martina Civico 324 27 Jul 1833 marriage Maria Francesca, daughter of the late Giuseppe De Franceschi and Lucia Tromba House 325 belongs to Stefano De Franceschi and Bonetta Vellico. Their daughter Maria died there in March 1829 and Bonetta herself in September 1830, and her entry writes the husband out three deep: «Stefano De Franceschi di…

…and lets the daughters out of it; the one door back is an entry that has to say whose child this was. And the father's name is the find inside the find. This archive holds one Giuseppe De Franceschi: 1758 – 14 February 1830, house 324, married to Lucia Tromba q.m Cristoforo, dead suddenly with no priest at his side. He had been three years in the ground when this entry was written — which is exactly what «fu Giuseppe» means. If she is his, then Michiela is a fifth child of that household, standing…

…strongest inference on this page, and an inference still. Tested, and not settled — with a caution the test itself produced. The marriage register would decide this: a marriage entry names both of the bride's parents, so if Michiela's mother is Lucia Tromba, she is Giuseppe's. The book opens 12 October 1815, and the fourteen De Franceschi marriages already read out of it run 1817 to 1832 — none is hers. Her marriage therefore sits in the register's first fifteen months, or before the book…

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