What Changed
An archive that never contradicts itself is not being careful; it is not checking. This is the list of claims made here and then withdrawn, kept in the open because the reasoning that failed is as useful as the reasoning that held.
Every page here carries a confidence label, and a label is only honest if it can be lowered. Most of what follows is this archive becoming less certain, not more: a house number demoted from an identifier to a kin-group, a resolved name reopened, a culprit un-named. One was caught by the reader — the search had been folding surnames and not given names, and was finding 42 of 88 Ivans. One was caught by sweeping the built site rather than the source, which is a lesson about where to look.
1. Šojat is a family. I called it a by-name.
| This archive said | Recorded in the register as the by-name the tree attaches to one Blažević household— read as a nadimak, like Papa on the Antići. |
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| The record says | The Šojati are a Krivi Put family of fifteen people with their own dates and their own place — Marko Šojat, 19 April 1801 to 4 February 1871, five dated children, and a valley called Sojat Dol. They married the Blaževići and Prpići nine times. |
| What it cost | The mechanism was right and the direction was backwards. Blažević (Sojat) is almost certainly a household known by the family it married — which is how a nadimak is born, not what one is. Who they married → |
2. A bracket and a slash cost this archive 214 people.
| This archive said | That the tree held 232 Žubrinići in 94 pieces, and that joining them was the largest single piece of work outstanding in this archive. |
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| The record says | The surname fold split on ( but not on /. So Žubrinić / Xubrinich and Prpic Perpic — one surname written several ways in a single field — never matched the surname list. The real figure is 422, and fixing it brought 214 people into the archive, including Elias Ilija Žubrinić and Casparus Žubrinić, who are the subjects of two of this archive's own open questions. |
| What it cost | Two published numbers, and the conclusion drawn from them. Counted properly there are 90 loose ends, not 94 — and 79 of them are bare names with no date and no place. So the work is not large; it is impossible from here, and the register is the only way through. The fragments, counted → |
3. Ninety-two Žubrinići were held together by an alphabet.
| This archive said | Nothing — this had never been noticed. The tree looked more joined than it is. |
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| The record says | Eighteen nodes whose entire given name is a single letter — M, J, T — each with a parent called “Žubrinić Zubrinix Xubrinic Zub” and each holding as children everyone whose name starts with that letter. One has 26 children. |
| What it cost | 92 people are attached to the letter their name begins with and to nothing else. The sorting-bucket filter missed them because a bucket is normally detected by words like to be sorted, and these are named A through W. Read as parentage — which is what a naive count does — it makes the Žubrinići look like a family. |
4. House 114 was called a household. It is a zadruga.
| This archive said | That Smokvica Krmpotska kbr. 114 identified one family, and so placed Juraj Blažević in Toma's household — nearly naming his father. |
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| The record says | A control document, the 1890 baptism of Frane Blažević, puts Pavao Blažević, son of Luka, at 114 as well. Luka and Toma's father Anton are both sons of Ilija, so Pavao and Toma are first cousins and the number covers an extended-family compound — a zadruga. |
| What it cost | Question 1b was downgraded from critical to substantive. The house places Juraj in Ilija's kin-group; it cannot name his father. |
5. Zvonimir Vukelić was not a casualty-list death.
| This archive said | That he should be looked for in the Austro-Hungarian Verlustlisten, reasoning from his age — thirty-two in the second year of the war. |
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| The record says | The tree places his death at Senj and gives his occupation as gostioničar, bankar. A man who dies at home in a settled trade is not a casualty-list entry. |
| What it cost | The right book is the Senj death register for 1915. The reasoning was plausible and it was still wrong: an age is not a cause. |
6. The Karlobag material was filed under the wrong family.
| This archive said | A block on Karlobag's merchant milieu placed on the Žubrinić page. |
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| The record says | It arrives through Matija Pilipić, ahnentafel 13 — the Papić line. Moved. |
| What it cost | Nothing to the evidence; everything to whether a reader can follow the line it belongs to. |
7. Two letters went to the wrong archive.
| This archive said | Both drafted to Državni arhiv u Gospiću, on the assumption that Lika-Senj county means Gospić. |
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| The record says | Gospić's remit is Lika-Senj “osim gradova Senja i Novalje” — except the towns of Senj and Novalja. And Smokvica is in Primorje-Gorski Kotar, not Lika-Senj at all. Both belong to Rijeka, Senj branch. |
| What it cost | Had they been sent, two archives would have spent time forwarding them. Jurisdiction is now written down before anything is posted. |
8. The search did not fold given names.
| This archive said | That folding Žubrinić / Xubrinich / Zubrinich together was enough to make a person findable. |
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| The record says | It was not. Ivan found 42 of 88 Ivans, because the rest are entered Joannes, Joannis, Juan or Ive. 268 canonical given names, 34 of them under more than one spelling. |
| What it cost | Caught by the reader, not by this archive. Both surnames and given names now fold — and the split by sex was a second correction on top, after Franjo and Franciska were wrongly merged. |
9. Forty Latin case-endings were blamed on a transcriber.
| This archive said | That Josephum, Joannis and Mariam were one person working through Selce and Vinodol entries and lifting the word after baptizavi. |
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| The record says | Three scans, two parishes, three priests, three decades apart — the priests wrote the oblique forms themselves. Michaël Kombol writes nomine + accusative for every child on the 1806 page. |
| What it cost | The artefact is real; the culprit was invented. It also turned the ending into a useful signal — accusative means the entry is the person's own, genitive means they were only named as somebody's parent. |
10. A name was called resolved on the strength of a sorting bucket.
| This archive said | That Luca “Papić or Perpic” was settled, because her siblings are recorded Papić. |
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| The record says | Her father is a record called “Senj — Unknown To be Sorted Papić”. Those siblings were grouped by whoever compiled the tree, not by a register. |
| What it cost | The tooling now reuses the same sorting-bucket filter the rest of the build uses, so a bucket can never resolve a name. Marked open. |
11. Her surname is Gergacs, not Gerkacs.
| This archive said | Mariam Gerkacs (Gergacs), ahnentafel 55, following the tree's ordering. |
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| The record says | The Karlobag register of August 1789 spells it Gergacs. The tree leads with the secondary form. |
| What it cost | Small, and worth doing: the register's spelling is the one an archivist will search on. |
12. A misreading of my own, corrected at higher resolution.
| This archive said | That the 1918 marriage entry for Ana Papić gave her mother as Antonija r. Papić — a clerk confusing the two family names. |
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| The record says | Enlarged, it plainly reads Prpić. There was no clerk's error. |
| What it cost | Nothing, because it was caught before it was published as a finding. Recorded because a correction that never reached the page is still a correction. |
13. Five links were built without the site's base path.
| This archive said | Open questions rewrote href='/TheBlazevic/…' in the question body but not in the “what would settle it” block. |
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| The record says | Both fields go through one helper. Two of the five had been dead since the page was written. |
| What it cost | A reader clicking the most actionable part of the page got a 404. Found by sweeping the built site rather than the source. |
14. A second wife, or a second man — the Orešković join gets worse.
| This archive said | That the wrong-attachment problem was contained: a real Maria Catharina Orešković of Dubrava had been married to the wrong man, and the rest of the line stood. |
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| The record says | Reading the 1845 Otočac baptism of Josephus gives the mother as Maria Žubrinić nata Marković, where the 1834 baptism of Nicolaus gives Maria nata Orešković. Either the first wife died and he married a second Maria, or there are two men of this name — there are 68 Žubrinić records at Otočac. |
| What it cost | The archive had already established that Maria Catharina was the wrong woman — that reversal is set out on the Frontier page and is not new here. What is new is that the husband is now uncertain too, which is a larger problem than the one it replaces. |
15. I blamed the download for four thumbnails. It was the upload.
| This archive said | Question 5c, published this morning, said four key scans had been downloaded from MyHeritage at the wrong size and should simply be re-fetched — no archive, no letter, no travel. |
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| The record says | Testing it took two minutes and disproved it. The MyHeritage CDN returns exactly 960 pixels for the 1885 marriage, so the file held in the tree is itself 960 pixels. What separates the good scans is where they came from: every 4,500-pixel document carries a FamilySearch image identifier in its filename, and no 960-pixel one does. |
| What it cost | The wrong fix. Re-fetching would have returned the same four thumbnails and the question would have looked answered. The real action is to re-source three entries from FamilySearch — and the registers and pages for all three are already known. |
16. A Karlobag baptism was attached to the wrong Caetano Bacchi.
| This archive said | Caetano Bacchi, ahnentafel 214, born 12 January 1779 — carried from the tree, whose own note reads “(Maybe)”. |
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| The record says | The 1779 Karlobag entry is real, but ahn 214's daughter died in 1795 and her daughter was born 11 March 1781. Two years cannot hold two generations. The right man belongs around 1730–1745. |
| What it cost | Two more ancestors go with it: Angelo Bacchi and Catharina are in this pedigree only because that entry names them. Marked disputed, not deleted — the wrong join is the only pointer to where the right man should be sought. |
17. The Frontier colonel's name was misread as Ballinich.
| This archive said | The 1777 Uroda godfather given as Pro-Colonellus Joannes Ballinich de Zirfeld. |
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| The record says | The same surname recurs in a February 1779 entry where the words Joës Bapta sit on the same line — giving a clean two-bowled capital B to compare against. The surname's initial is a single looped ascender with a leg, and plainly not that letter. It is Hallinich de Zirfeld. |
| What it cost | Small in itself, and the method is the point: a contested letter was settled by finding the candidate letter elsewhere in the same hand, rather than by staring harder at the word. |
18. Four sorting buckets were published as ancestors.
| This archive said | 1800-1830 Birth — Selce Papić (Papa), two more like it, and 1700 Birth — Selce Papić, all with person pages and children attached. |
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| The record says | They are research scaffolding, not people. The build has always excluded such records — the code comment says publishing them “would be a lie” — but the filter did not recognise a name opening with a year, nor Brothers of Casparus (It Seems). |
| What it cost | Four people who never existed had pages, and were parents in other people's family lists. The person count fell by four. Found not by reading but by the new self-consistency check: a bucket dated 1800-1830 cannot father someone born in 1824. |
19. A direct ancestor was recorded as dying eight years before her wedding.
| This archive said | Tereza Pećanić, ahnentafel 9, carried through from the tree as died before 1850 — published without anyone checking it against the rest of her own record. |
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| The record says | The same record marries her to Toma on 21 November 1858 and gives her children in 1860, 1880, 1882 and 1884. Toma's death entry of 26 July 1907 calls him udovac iza pok. Tereze — widower of the late Tereza. So she was alive in 1884 and dead by July 1907. |
| What it cost | Nothing downstream — no date was computed from it. But it sat on a direct ancestor's page for the life of this archive, and it is the kind of error that needs no register to catch: her own children postdate her death by up to thirty-four years. The lesson is that internal consistency was never checked, only external agreement. |
20. Five stock graphics were published as portraits of ancestors.
| This archive said | Five items in the media library shown as photographs of Michael Žubrinić (b. 1811), Maria Catharina Orešković (1835), Josephum Antić (1806), Maria Jelličić (1809) and Georgius Antić Papić (1838). |
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| The record says | They are stock question-mark placeholder graphics, uploaded to the tree for people who have no picture. One still carries a visible Adobe Stock watermark. The dates alone should have caught it: a photograph of a man born in 1806 would be remarkable. |
| What it cost | They were on the pictures page and on two person pages, captioned as those people. The media build now honours an excluded classification and drops them. A sixth was reclassified rather than dropped — a picture captioned “Ljubomir Blazevic” is the family gravestone, not a portrait. |
21. The gazetteer was counting one village as several.
| This archive said | Otočac shown with 60 Žubrinić records; four Mrzli Dol records filed under a place called “#6 Mrzli Dol”. |
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| The record says | Otocac Croatia is Otočac — 68 records. The house-number pattern missed # and kbr., hiding houses 9 and 30 entirely. |
| What it cost | Every count on the map page was low. Fixed when the tool was widened from one surname to four. |
And the record-level corrections
These are narrower — a date, a spelling, a single person — and each is attached to the person it concerns, so a reader who never opens this page still meets it.
| What | The tree | The record | |
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| Corrected Baptism date | 19 October 1886 | 17 October 1886 | → |
| Noted Birth date | 1 March 1892 — correct | The gravestone at Senj says 1891 | → |
| Disputed Attachment to this family | Wife of Michael Žubrinić; mother of Nicolaus (b. 24 January 1834) | Born 8 September 1835 — twenty months after her supposed son | → |
| upgraded Parentage of his son Ljubomir | Asserted, with no document — this archive called it Disputed | Documented: Senj marriages, 8 December 1920, page 366 entry 41 | → |
| Confirmed Birth date | 14 March 1806 | 14 March 1806 — confirmed | → |
| Noted The name Josephum | Josephum | Josephus — and the priest wrote the accusative himself | → |
| Corrected Surname | Gerkacs (Gergacs) | Gergacs | → |
| Noted Birth date | 11 August 1789 | August 1789, born the day before baptism — consistent | → |
| Noted Baptism entry | Born 22 April 1777, Karlobag | April 1777, Karlobag, born the day before — consistent | → |
| Corrected She is not this child's mother | Mother of Nicolaus Žubrinić, b. 24 January 1834 | Born 8 September 1835 — nineteen months after him | → |
| Confirmed Baptism | 24 January 1834, Otočac | 24 January 1834, Otočac — confirmed | → |
| Noted Two wives, or two men | Married to Maria Catharina Orešković | 1834: Maria nata Oreskovich · 1845: Maria nata Marković | → |
| Corrected Birth date | 17 May 1884 | 12 May 1884 | → |
| Confirmed Birth date, and her parents' house | 25 October 1884 | 25 October 1884 — confirmed | → |
| Disputed His parents | Michael “Mate” Žubrinić and Maria Catharina Orešković — the same couple as Nicolaus, b. 1834 | Mate Žubrinić and Marija r. Orešković, both dead by 1910 — but a different couple | → |
| Confirmed Birth date | 19 October 1885 | 19 October 1885 — confirmed | → |
| Confirmed Birth date | 23 October 1888 | 23 October 1888 — confirmed | → |
| Confirmed Death, cause and burial | 26 July 1907, Senj — no cause, no burial detail | 26 July 1907, Senj — tuberculosis, aged 69, buried sv. Vid on 28 July | → |
| Corrected Death date | Before 1850 | After 1884, and before 26 July 1907 | → |
| Confirmed Baptism, and her father's occupation | Born 1838, Karlobag | Baptised 18 September 1838, Karlobag — confirmed | → |
| Noted Burial | Not recorded | Senj — the stone reads BLAŽEVIĆ TEREZA ✻1867 †1931 | → |
| Disputed This baptism is not his | Born 12 January 1779 — the tree's own note adds “(Maybe)” | A real Karlobag baptism of that date, but of a different man | → |
| Disputed Attached on a baptism that is not his son's | Father of Caetano Bacchi | Named only in the 1779 entry, which cannot be ahn 214's | → |
| Confirmed Birth | March 1781, Karlobag | Born 11 March 1781 — confirmed | → |
| Confirmed Baptism | 11 March 1768, Karlobag | Baptised 11 March 1768, born 10 March — confirmed | → |
| Confirmed Birth and baptism | Born 12 May 1859, baptised 15 May 1859, Krivi Put 136 | Confirmed exactly — and the household is entered Confiniarii | → |
| Confirmed Marriage and trade | Married Antonija Prpić; trhonoša, bremenar, gostioničar | Married 3 May 1885 at Senj, aged 27, entered bremenar | → |
| Noted Still no surname, after two documents | Lucia “Luca”, no surname | Two registers name her and neither gives one | → |
| Disputed A child born after his death | Died 20 March 1954; Vladimira Boras born 1960 | Not reconciled | → |
| Disputed A child born 74 years after his death | Died 1888; Georgius Prpić born 1962 | Not reconciled | → |
| Disputed A child born after his death | Died 1926; Blazenka Boras born 1930 | Not reconciled | → |
| Disputed A child born after his death | Died 1845; Magdalena Žubrinić born 1847 | Not reconciled | → |
| Disputed Died before she was born | Born 11 February 1847, died 4 August 1846 | Not reconciled | → |
| Disputed A mother at ten | Born 21 June 1812; Lucas Ugrin Adamich born 1822 | Not reconciled | → |
| Noted A father in the same year as his son | Born before 1769; Stephanus Žubrinić born 1769 | An artefact of the hedge, not a contradiction | → |
| Corrected Birthplace — the county is wrong | Smokvica, Krmpote, Općina Smokvica, Dubrovačko-neretvanska županija | Smokvica Krmpotska, Općina Novi Vinodolski, Primorje-Gorski Kotar | → |
| Corrected Birthplace — the county is wrong | Senj, Split-Dalmatia, Croatia | Senj, Lika-Senj County, Croatia | → |
| Confirmed Death, cause and age | Born 1902, died 1903 | Died 3 June 1903 aged 1 year 8 months — scarlatina with diphtheria | → |
| Corrected Her father | Mother Katarina “Kate” Matijavic; no father recorded | Franjo Papić, nadničar | → |
| Noted Where her death is registered | Died 7 September 1971 | Confirmed — and the civil entry is cited in her baptism margin | → |
| Confirmed Baptism, house and death | Born 23 October 1888 | Born 23 October, baptised 25 October 1888, at Smokvica kbr. 114 — and died 30 June 1954 at Senj | → |
| Noted What she did | No occupation recorded — her whole event list is born, immigrated, died | Family lore: a singer at the Hotel Therapia, Crikvenica | → |
| Disputed When she left Croatia | Immigration to South Africa, April 1975, from Zimbabwe | Family lore says 1948 — which the record will not allow | → |
| Confirmed Death date | 1953 | 6 September 1953 — from the stone | → |
| Noted His wife's dates | Married Katica — no surname, no dates | Katica, 1924–2007, from the family grave | → |
| Confirmed Baptism and house | Year only | Born 17 February, baptised 22 February 1894, at Smokvica 114 | → |
| Confirmed Baptism and house | Year only | Born 6 August, baptised 9 August 1896, at Smokvica kbr. 114 | → |
| Disputed A child born after his death | Died 1845; Helena Žubrinić born 1847 | Not reconciled | → |
| Disputed A child born after his death | Died 1832; Catharina born 1847 | Not reconciled | → |
| Disputed A child born after his death | Died 1825; Joannes born 1844 | Not reconciled | → |
| Disputed Lived to a hundred and eleven | Born 12 March 1785, died 1896 | Not reconciled | → |
| Corrected The 1845 baptism is not his | The Otočac baptism of Josephus, 16 March 1845, is attached to him — and gives the mother as Maria née Marković | It belongs to a different Michael Žubrinić, whom the tree also holds | → |
| Confirmed Baptism | Born 11 August 1885 | Born 11 August, baptised 12 August 1885 — confirmed | → |
| Confirmed Baptism, and where her death is registered | Born 9 December 1891; died 30 January 1963 | Born 9 December, baptised 13 December 1891 — and the death entry is cited in the margin | → |
| Confirmed Baptism, and the grandfather confirmed by patronymic | Born 5 November 1894, Novi Vinodolski, to Martin Kalanj and Marija Peričić | Born 5 November, baptised 11 November 1894 — and the father is entered as Martin Kalanj Josipov | → |
| Confirmed Baptism | Born 29 July 1896, Novi Vinodolski | Register scan held, 2,953 px | → |
| Confirmed Baptism | Born 4 March 1898, Novi Vinodolski | Register scan held, 2,953 px | → |
| Confirmed Baptism | Born 3 January 1900, Novi Vinodolski | Register scan held, 2,953 px | → |
| Disputed A blank house-number column does not mean the household had no number | This archive concluded on 13 September 2026 that “the house number is a village device and it does not reach the town” | Novi Vinodolski is a town, and its registers do give house numbers — just not to this family, and not on every page | → |
| Disputed Her gravestone gives the wrong birth date | Born 3 January 1864, Klenovica 22; died 28 May 1936, Crikvenica | The Crikvenica stone reads ✻ 19 IX 1863 — the baptismal register reads 3 January 1864 | → |
| Confirmed She is Martin Kalanj's sister, which explains the godparents | Ana Kalanj and Martin Kalanj both children of Josip Kalanj and Rozalija Perković, Klenovica 22 | Both baptisms name the same parents; and Ana's husband stands godfather to Martin's daughter | → |
| Noted He died at Trebinje, four hundred kilometres from home | Martin Kalanj, born 8 November 1861 at Klenovica 22; died 5 August 1900 at Trebinje | His youngest child was baptised at Novi Vinodolski on 6 January 1900, seven months earlier | → |
| Corrected The Krivi Put status animarum is family material after all | Recorded this morning as “not this family's household — no Pavelić is published here” | There are 114 Pavelići in the tree, and Lovro Kalanj married Ana Pavelić | → |
| Corrected His son's birth year is a typo, and the place proves it | Domianus Perpić died 1888, and his wife Maria Sojath in 1891 — yet their son Georgius Prpić is entered as born 26 March 1962 | Georgius's own birthplace is given as “Krivi Put 136, Senj, Lika, Austria-Hungary” | → |
| Disputed Vladimira Baricević cannot be the mother of his children | Joannes Ivan Boras, born 1855, is married to Vladimira Baricević, born 12 December 1907 — a gap of 52 years — and fourteen children hang off her | Nine of the fourteen were born before she was, between 1888 and 1906 | → |
| Noted Aged 111, and fathered by a label | Gregorius Žubrinić, born 12 March 1785 at Otočac, died 1896 — age 111 | His children are born 1812–1825, which fits the birth; his recorded father is “Brothers [of Josephus] Žubrinić” | → |
What is deliberately still wrong
Two things on this site are known to be inconsistent and have been left that way on purpose, because tidying them would destroy the evidence that they conflict.
- An ancestral branch attached to the wrong woman. Now that the 1834 register has been read, Maria Catharina Orešković is known not to be Nicolaus's mother — but the archive cannot say who the right Maria Orešković was, so the branch is left attached and marked rather than severed into a dead end. Cutting it would destroy the only pointer anyone has to where the real woman should be looked for.
- Two sisters born eighteen days apart. Franjka Papić, 20 January 1895, and Šulka Papić, 7 February 1895, of the same parents — each date written in that woman's own marriage register. The tree reproduces both faithfully, so the disagreement is between the records. Question 5b →
The rule is the same in both cases: reproduce the contradiction, attribute it, and say what would settle it. An archive that resolves a conflict it cannot actually resolve has replaced a record with an opinion. Method →