Helena
1788–1828
Connected to this family only through a sorting label
Every route from Hedviga to this person passes through a sorting label — a working note sitting where an ancestor should be. This is not a claim that the person is invented; the register entries behind them are real. It is a statement about the join. Why this matters →
Attachment to this family
| The tree says | Wife of George Untersinger; mother of Rosalia (1802), Ana (1807), Michael (1810), Lucia (1827) and Eva (1839) |
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| The record says | Born 25 June 1788, died 1828 — fourteen at the first birth and eleven years dead at the last |
The five children span thirty-seven years across a mother who lived forty. Both ends break: Rosalia arrives when Helena is fourteen, Eva eleven years after she is buried. This is the same shape as Vladimira Baricevic's row — one marriage record holding two generations of mothers — and it is the commonest way this tree goes wrong. Untersinger is a married-in line and belongs to the Defranceski archive. Read it →
| Born | 25 JUN 1788 |
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| Died | 1828 |
| Record | @I508278@ |
Family
The mark describes the person, not the link. Of the 2 relatives drawn here, 1 have a document of their own in this archive — but that is not the same as a document tying them to this person. This archive holds no separate proof for most parent–child links; where it does, the note above this chart says so in words. 4 relatives are named in the tree but fall outside the eight surnames and have no page.
Where this comes from
Disputed
this archive has shown something recorded about them to be wrong.
1 correction or note has been recorded against this page — set out above, and listed on What changed.
Where this sits in the family
Not on the direct line. They are published because they belong to one of the eight surnames this archive follows.
The register spells this surname more than one way, and the search folds the forms together — so Xubrinich and Žubrinić, Joannis and Ivan, find each other.
Where this surname sits on the map →
What the tree says that cannot be true →
Events, as the record has them
- death 1828
- birth 25 JUN 1788 "Croatia, Church Books, 1516-1994," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G99F-M3TV?cc=2040054&wc=9R2D-16X%3A391644801%2C391674001%2C391979501 : 16 July 2014), Roman Catholic (Rimokatolička crkva) > Otočac > Church Census (Stanje duša) 1710-1846 Marriages (Vjenčani) 1859-1872 Deaths (Umrli) 1780-1836, 1859-1872 > image 23 of 384; Arhiva Hrvatske u Zagrebu (Croatia State Archives), Zagreb.
Sources attached in the tree
None. This person carries no source string at all in the tree. They may still be right — but nothing here can be checked without going to the register. Method →
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